Thursday, May 2, 2019

Journal Blog #2: Damming the Mekong River.

Thank you for your comments on Journal Blog #1. It is amazing that one of the longest and most influential rivers in the world is for so many people, so mysterious and unknown. It is a rural river. But most of the people of the countries through which the Mekong flows are rural people, including Thailand. However, even us in Bangkok are highly affected by it. The Mekong feeds the northern rivers that feed the Chaophaya. Most of our food production depends on the health of the Mekong. But because it does not flow through our lives, it is out of our minds.

On the other hand, it is very meaningful to other people. Again, I have posted two more videos posted on the Google Site. These videos give very different perspectives about dam development on the Mekong, specifically the Xayaburi dam that is under construction in central Laos.

Watch the videos. I want you to notice the different points of view. One video gives reasons that does not support dam construction, but the other one does. What reasons are strongest for you? Overall, based on your knowledge, what is your opinion of the Xayaburi dam?

Your first post is due by Friday, midnight. You are expected to then reply to TWO classmates' posts by before class on Monday. So you will need a total of 3 posts to receive full participation credit. Feel free to disagree with your classmates, as this is a very debatable issue.

Remember to include your ID# and Section # in all of your posts. Aj. M

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  1. #6180693 #section7
    After I have watched two videos, I strongly disagree that damming is beneficial because of 3 reasons. The first reason is unstable ecosystem in the river. Constructing the dam directly destroys the quality of river as there are hazardous substances falling into water. This effect accelerates animals which are in the river die. If the population of aquatic animals is decreased, it means that local can not earn a living from fishing. Some individual said that Mekong River is necessary for us to survive. They not only earn money from selling their products from river, but they also utilize the water in the river in daily lives. Another reason is that it negatively impacts to tourism because it is one of the most important sectors to improve economic condition. When the river is full of dust and no longer beautiful, tourists do not travel to Mekong River. The income in 6 countries is declined. Overall, I think that building dam negatively affect to animal living in the river, local people, and tourism.
    Xayaburi has been constructed in Mekong river since 2016. It is such an enormous dam. I do not think that it works well in the future because the Xayaburi destroys environment like plants and animals. Moreover, local people lose their shelters as it is required a large acres of the land to build it. Furthermore, there is no denying that flooding will occur because there is no tree to hold the water from lands, and water in the dam is quite a lot. Hence, Xayaburi is not the best dam to build.

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    1. I agree with you that Mekong river can give a lot of benefits for people around that area because they can use the water for living in their lives. Moreover, it also increase countries’ income and jobs because in this video, it shows that people can sell the fish about 3 billion per year which is the high revenue.
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      I am agreed with you about the side effects of creating dams on the Mekong River such as decreasing of animals, or changing style of their daily lives. People's lives in the city will get better while people whose lives depending on this river will get worse. After that, if the dams in Xayaburi gets constructed by any chance, and this will be a gateway, or lead other companies to build another dams on this great great river. All of these is also about competition. People want to compete with each other by developing countries. If want to develop a country, tourism will be a good choice, but not only focus on the capital city. At first i was going to disagree with you about the tourism thingy because whenever i think of tourism, i will think of trash. Most tourists freely/simply throw the trash and fishes will die. However, if no tourists, then people who do the dolphin job will lose their job. Regarding plastic trash or whatever, i think it is another case which is able to fix. But building dams, people's lives will change forever in terms of culture, survival. They just want a simple life, and they don't demand so much, but only one thing they demand, which is not to build dams!

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    3. #6180930 section 7

      I agree with this comment that dam's expansion cause many adverse effects. It is not only destroying environment but also people's living. Moreover, Mekong river holds sentimental value to rural people because they have rely on the river for a long time.
      So, I strongly think that the construction of dam should not be launched.

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  2. #6180059 #section7
    After I had watched the two videos, I noticed that both have totally different points of view. One is about the greatest construction of XayaburiHEPP which is one of the largest hydromechanical projects in the world. Another is about the reasonable reasons that the dam should not be build because of its devastating consequences. Mekong River is the heart of small farmers, fishermen, and millions of villages. It has a significant to the country economics as it is the largest river in exporting fish. Mekong River is also noticeable as a home of various species of aqua animals such as Irrawaddy dolphin and giant catfish. Scientist, expert, and native people agree to point out that if the dam was built then where have the fish gone? In addition, scientist advises that Xayaburi is also the earthquake-prone then if the dam collapse there is going to be a tsunami. In my perspective, I totally agree thus the dam should not be built because it will affect human life and the ecosystem. It would be better if the company find an alternative way to get energy instead of building dams by the reason that the lives of people and animals are depending on the river.

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    1. #6180988
      I agree, the dam has several unfavourable effects on nearby environment and people’s living. As Mekong is the main consumable and financial sources for local people and the central of aqua lives, damming should not be construct.

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  3. #618006 section7
    I don't support building the Sayaburi dam across the Mekong river. One reason is that the dam didn't benefit the people around the Mekong river, more cause trouble to the citizen in those area to move their home and workplace for building the dam. Secondly, building the dam at this location affects several countries below the dam: less water for crops and agriculture in Vietnam and the transportation in Cambodia. Which this issue is already visible from the construction of dams in China across Mekong. Thirdly, the Mekong river, or Southeast Asia in general, is the one of the biological hotspots in the world. Building the dam will certainly cut off the size of the ecosystem around the Mekong river. Then later cause the reduction of the environmental resources which may lead to food insecurity, suffering the creatures in the Mekong river and become endangered. Fourth, using the water resources as a production of electricity is not the best way to boost the power into cities. Normally countries around the Mekong river have facing droughts every year. I would rather release the water like it should be than keep the water in the dam and use it when summer comes, and use another source of power to support the electricity used in the cities such as the solar energy. I believe that if the government or whatever the organization use the solar energy, it will much more effective than using water as a problem solver for every single issue.

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    2. #6180693
      I totally agree with you that there is no advantage for damming because some people around there has lived for a long time, and they have accustomed to their life-style. If the dam construction will have finished, where will they live. It is like killing local people happiness.

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  4. #6180614 #section7
    I’m actually support the building of the Xayaburi dam. I know that the dam will have a major effect on the Mekong river, but for the country to improve and develop I think we need to one sacrifice something in order to let the system flow. Electricity is one of the most important factor of living in this modernize world that most of the thing are run by electricity, from light bulb to cars. Many country not only Thailand are finding the alternative energy that is more sustain for future usage such as solar, wind, or hydro power. The hydroelectric power plant is one kind of energy generator that is sustain and cleen. The Xayaburi dam will help generate more than 1000 MW worth of electricity, and it can help reduce the price of the electricity consumption down in the long run because we make more power. I’m know that I chose to support the dam because I have no connection with the Mekong river most people that have a relationship with the Mekong river they will probably disagree because all the negative effect cause by the dam.

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    1. I see you point that building dam can cause more power to us. On the other hand, we live in the technology world that the technology are developed, and our world are moving faward. Thus, we should figure out the other ways to create more power that causing less impact to our society and environment. Furthermore, this issue can make people concerning more abour the environmental issue that might affect their daily life, and they will use less power as much as they can to have last longer power to use in the future.

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    2. 6180634
      I respect your opinion, totally. However, you said, we need electricity. But this is all about you, your life. What about others who depend only with this river. Imagine you are in their shoes, what would you feel... No offense, just my opinion :)

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    3. #6180990
      I see your point that electricity is extremely important to our lives, but how can you deal with the consequences of building the dam, such as poverty. Building dam is able to cause a huge poverty in their countries. In other words, rich people are able to gain a lot of benefits from building the dam, such as earning a lot of money, while poor people are getting worse. Poor people tend to be poor and poorer from building the dam. Therefore, I think that building the dam might lead their countries to be worse because rich people who build the dam look only their benefits, rich people seem that they care their lives more than rural people's lives. Although rich people try to figure the problem out, it still causes a huge gap between poor and rich people.

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    4. #6180930 section7

      It is not denied that we are living in the era of technological advancement and the dam gives us the energy. As our common senses that this construction cause several thread to us. So, this way maybe not the best way for us I think there will be other way that will not cause many negative effects as this mean.

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  5. 6180922 Sec 7
    The mekong river is very important to the countries that has been alongside the river. The xayaburi dam was considered to be one of the most influencial dam project to the lower half of the mekong river. I would actualy disagree with this project after seeing the voices of different people that has been negatively affected. The mekong river is the most important food resource for people around the mekong river. With the dams built, it has limited the people's source of fish or basically food. Not only it has affected and cause a barrier for the fishes and the dolphins, it has limited the water supply for agriculture. With limited flow of water does ripple much more than agriculture. But the limited capability to transport around the river has been affected. Tourism and wateranimals starts to decrease. China has already built several dams that caused problems down the river. Chinese dams has already affected the river towards SouthEast Asia while putting more dams creates more extreme consequences to the economy, ecology and people's life. I think that it is neccessary for the governments of different nations to see any consequences to the people, the nation and the lives of water animals.

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    1. #6180988
      I agree, Mekong river provides significant advantages for local people. They have to consume and survive with the river. Also, it creates revenue to the local citizen as it is the biggest fish exporting area.

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    2. I totally agree with you that the Mekong River is very significant to the country. By establishing the Xayaburi dam, it will limit the people’s source and by this time the governments should be serious to consider the consequences.

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    3. 6180614 sec7
      I can see that Mekong river bring many things withit culture, food, and many more. These factors will get affected by the dam, but I think these problem can be solve. There is many other alternative ways of getting those living factors. We can get food from many other places, we can dig a fish pond and get fish for consuming.

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  6. #6180519 #section7

    I already have some knowledge about the Xayaburi dam because of the news that i saw about local people protest again building the dam. From the news locals don't like the idea that Laos will build the dam because it could effect local life in bad way. So. i already have some opinion on this matter that is i don't support Xayaburi dam because i think the am might damage Mekong environment and Marine life habitats. After i watch both videos, both of them have present me two point of view support the Dam and again the Dam. Even though the dam can be use to develop the country i still don't support the dam because of this various reason. First reason is the dam is from Laos which might not benefit Thailand that much. Second reason is the dam is destroy Mekong environment. Even thought the dam is use to create hydro electric power but it will ruin the environment by doing it and right now there are various way to create clean energy without ruin the environment. Third reason is it might destroy Marine life. Mekong river is the habitat of many unique life and the dam could lead t the extinction of many species and ruin local life that life are depend on this animal. In the end, after finish the video i my opinion is still the same which is i don't support Xayaburi dam.

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    1. I agree with you that you don't support Xayaburi dam. The environmental problem is the big problem that our world is facing not only at Mekong river. Therefore, we should help each other to protect the environment to be last longer. In addition, many life depends on this river. Hence, I also agree with you.

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    3. #6180603 section #7
      I totally agree with you that building dams causes lots of negative effects on the environment and ecosystem, so dams should not be built. Another point is that there other environmentally friendly to produce more electricity. I think every country should consider this issue more seriously to conserve the environment.

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      I agree that the dams actually caused lots of problems for the local people and the animals. The problem of the dams effect other nations is considered to be a very true statement. Countries along the river is going to be affected by the more limited amount of water and causes the ecosystem to be interrupted. Agriculture is another major issue that should be inconsideration. Anyhow, dams are still considered to be very interruptive down the stream.

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    5. 6180614 SEC7
      I see your point, that most people that have any relationship with the Mekong will go against building of the dam. But if you look at the bigger picture, building dam will create a stronger infrastructure for the country. The better infrastructure will increase our living quality, help further develop the country. Sometime in order to get the country develop I think we have to leave something behind.

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  7. #6180657 #section7
    Many people use Mekong River for living which is the most important river for people around that area. However, the Mekong river is facing a bad situation because the water level is decreasing until the lowest level from 50 years during this time. Therefore, people concern more about protect the Mekong river. I strongly disagree with the project to build the dam at Mekong river because it might cause negative effects more than positive effects. Moreover, it causes environmental problems such as fish and wild. fisherman attain the huge effects of this project because a lot of people depends on the Mekong river. Cambodian agricultural gain a huge negative effect also. the diversity of aquatic animal will be decreased and causing the risk for people. This might have many positive effects for some people that have authority, but how about normal people that have no authority. Rich people become richer, poor people become poorer. Some people might think that the dam can create more power for us. However, Mekong is an important river, so they should find other ways to create more power. From all of this reason, I also disagree with the project. Finally, this issue can make people to concern more about the environmental issue, and saving power for the last longer.

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    1. I agree with you that Mekong river should be protected because building the Xayaburi dam take a lot of of negative effects such as the environment around that area, and people who can take the benefit from Mekong river. I like your sentence that rich people become richer, poor people become poorer because it can reflect the society nowadays.
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      I totally agree with you. In the world we are living today, rich people get richer, and poor people get poorer. The governments don't even planning to help those people as they only want to develop the country. Many side affects exist if the dams are built such as poverty, economic (employment rate), protest might happen as well. Government think compensation will be enough for them, but if dams are built, their lives will change forever, will never be the same.

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    3. #6180990
      I agree with you that we are not support the project to build the dam even it has some benefits. If the government builds the dam, it will cause a huge gap between poor and rich people. I think that this problem is very hard to figure it out even the government tries to solve it many times. As we see in these days, we live in the country that has the poverty. It seems that the government tries to solve this problem, but they cannot solve it. This might because the government seems like they do not care about poor people at all because they only look at the benefits for themselves. Therefore, if the government builds the dam, it will increases a lot of poor people.

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  8. From the videos, I believe that most people rely on the river for daily living. The Mekong river contribute to human's shelter, economic growth, and food. People who reside the river will get the negative effects from the construction of the dam. Therefore, I oppose to the idea of building a dam. I think that people around the river had lived since birth. Before the project, they live happily like people in town even though they have different financial conditions. I do not understand why burgher or government need to bother them to get what they want and change the reside's people lifestyle which also had a great impact on people. I think that people around the river have less power and money compare to townspeople, so if we move them from where they usually be, it will make them suffer more. However, building a dam can give people positive effects, but I still disagree with the project.

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    1. #6180603 section #7
      I agree with the point that local people's lives should not be bothered by the dam project as it is not fair to cause difficulties to their lives in order to make more money from the dam. Another point is that Mekong River provides numerous advantages in terms of food source, employment and residence which are important to people's lives.

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    From my perspective, I do agree that the Xayaburi dam should not be built because there are more negative effects than the positive. Firstly, Mekong river is the major place that people living around there can take a lot of benefit. From the video, people are able to catch fishes about 3.9 million tons per year which can create the income for the countries about 3 billion a year. Secondly, building the dam affects the environment around there because some dust or chemical that come from building the dam can destroy the living thing in the water such as dolphins and other species of fishes. Moreover, building the dam must immensely take money because Mekong is the long and big river, so the construction must be bigger which cause a lot of things. If people agree to build the Xayaburi dam , it can affect to some group of people to lose their jobs. Therefore, I totally disagree building the Xayaburi dam is good.

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      I think so that there are a lot of negative effects for Xayaburi. It destroy not only environment but also ecosystem of aqutic animal. Fish is the main source for local people to survive. They can earn their livings from it and consume it if they have no idea what to eat.

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  12. #6180990 #Section7
    After I watch two videos, I think that I will not support the project to build the dam even there are some benefits reasons from the videos. Some people think that they will build dam to develop the country in terms of electricity. Although some people think that building dam has a lot of advantages, I still strongly disagree with those people. To begin with, building dam in the Mekong river affects a lot of fishes and people's culture. To explain, there are a lot of fish’s species in the Mekong river, and dolphins is one of the fish that Cambodian people are respect, which is Irrawaddy dolphin. If the government build the dam, fish cannot swim in and out of the dam. This means that fish tend to extinct quickly. Therefore, people will lose their beliefs and also fish tend to extinct at the same time. Moreover, if the government builds the dam, countries’ GDP tend to be lower, such as Cambodia and Vietnam. The main income of Cambodia is fishing. If the Cambodian government builds dam, they tend to lose a lot of main income from selling fish. In addition, Vietnam is the second biggest in the world to export the rice. If the Vietnam government builds the dam, the crops from the rice might not good enough to export because of the quality of sediment. Therefore, two of these countries will lose a lot of GDP if they build the dam. Last but not least, building dam will causes a huge gap between poor and rich people. If the government builds dam, it is pretty sure that rich people will gain a huge benefits. For example, rich people will gain a lot of money. While poor people, especially fisheries, are losing their jobs, they tend to getting poor and poor. This means that building dam in the country will increases poverty in the country. To sum up, I disagree with the project to build the dam because building the dam cause a lot of problems, such as people's lives, environment and countries' GPD.

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      I advocates your statement. Although there might have some benefits in building the dam, its drawbacks outweigh the advantages. Mekong river is not only an important fisheries for local people, but its history also rooted in all countries in Southeast Asia. The argument that the government made about building dam for electricity is completely not sounded.

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    So many people rely on one river called Mekong river. However, some people support the construction of dams across the Mekong river. Many are agaist the idea of constructing the dams, especially villagers whose lives rely on the river. I would say that I oppose the idea of building the dams to produce electricity. I don't think it is worth it to exchange the nature of the Mekong river with electricity. 65 million people are dependent for food and livelihood on the Mekong river. The dam will fundamentally and permanently affect the flow of the river as well as its hydrological regime. Fish is blocked by dams which eventually the fish will be extinct. Mekong river made approximatley 3.9 million tons of fish a year. Finally, having massive construction like dams in the area where there is a high tendency of occuring earthquake.

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      I agree with you, millions of people depends on Mekong river for food in fact it is shocking to know that fishery in Mekong contributed largely each year. If the dam built, this would lead to shortage of fish and food shortage for people in the large scale. It seemed like a small voices from the people in the area, but if the government still insist on building the dam, people in the area will be devastated and would dramatically affect their livelihood.

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      I find what you say is very true. A lot of people down the river needs the river for various reasons. But one of the most important is food source. Millions rely on the river alone and million tons of fish worth of food is very important to the people.

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    I somewhat agree with building Xayaburi dam. Because we are living in the era of development , electricity and energy are the most important factor for us. These power are able to generate by our hands while natural resources will not stay with us forever. Dam expansion is a reasonable plan B for us in the future that natural resources no longer exist. To consider about majority’s benefit, we can make a lot of money from these improvement in terms of country’s income and economy aspect. However, building Xayaburi dam causes negative effects in many countries; Laos, Thai, Cambodia, and Vietnam. There are many people who live along the river and rely on Mekong river that they are effected the most in this situation. Most of them are fisher and Mekong river is the main source of their fish security to livelihood. If the dam expansion has launched, many lives of fish will be killed and some kinds of fish such as Irrawaddy dolphin and catfish will be extinct. The river will damaged including the dirtiness from the dam’s construction that get into the water ,resulting the pollution. In Vietnam, their major country’s revenue is rice farming. They have to use the water from Mekong river to farm but there are bad sediments mixed up in the water that makes their rice are infertile. In my opinion, I suggest that if the government want to generate more dams they have to think of their plan B for rural people who live nearby the river like their new living area or obtain welfare for them to start their new life or career in another area, and migrate the fish in Mekong river in other area that proper for them.

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  17. 6180634 - Section 7
    I still disagree on building dams on the Mekong river. It is true that Mekong River is the mother for people who depend on it as it supplies food, culture, and so on. Regarding 10 years policy on not building dams on this great river, I believe this is a very brilliant idea as within that 10 years, people, namely scientists or technology developers, are able to come up with some alternatives instead or using river to produce energy or whatever this river can provide for those companies which care merely their shareholders and green notes, but of course we all want to make money. However, other people, such as people in the video, they all depend on this mother river. With this 10 year policy, it would be a win-win solution where people will not lose job, and new technology pops up. Government only focus on the capital city the most, but still ignore the people who live along with this river. For China case, China thinks they are the power, they think they are a respected country, they think they can do whatever they want. China does not care what is going on outside of its country. Moreover, government or whoever want to build dams on the Mekong River, of course they will make money so easily, then, a girl in the first video quote that "Easy for make money, easy", which means for them, I can feel that it's very difficult for them to make money. Water flow will go differently, fish migration, water level will change, many things will also change people's lives. Fish also have family too where we don't see it's very important because people care only themselves. It is true who mentioned in the video about who will gain the benefits and who will lose the benefits. While government tackles poverty, it create another poverty. To conclude, if dams are built, this will not be the greatest, legendary Mekong River anymore.

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    After I watched the videos, I tend to disagree that the dams will cause advantages domestically; nevertheless, it provides some economical support in terms of energy and resources. There are several reasons why damming create negative effects that I have noticed. Firstly, the environments around the river are contaminated. Dam construction harm the quality of river and produce hazardous substances into the water, which made marine animals be infected. Moreover, Making river is the central of the local business and living. There are villages, fishers, and farmers living and consuming around the river. As a consequence of damming, it destroys people life financially due to the significant and largest river of Mekong in exporting fish. Additionally, Xayaburi is the earthquake-prone, so the damage of the deconstruction will create tsunami, flood or natural disaster. Also, it block the natural water flow, which animal and river cycle must have to be sustainable. From my own point of view, authorities should alter other renewable-sources producing such as solar or wind energy in order result in sustainability in both human and animal lives.

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      I agree with the point that the dam effect the environment by releasing the toxic chemicals into the dam. Water trouble is the important issue for human and other animals. The water affects the people including their health and their related job.

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  19. #6180603 section #7
    After I have watched these two videos, I strongly agreed that the Xayaburi dam should not be built for any reasons due to lots of negative impacts on ecosystem and people's lives. As it can be concluded from the video that the dam will destroy fisheries in the river to the point of extinction. Therefore, people may loss major food source as well as less income from exporting fish species. Furthermore, it may contribute to severe natural disasters, such as earthquake and in land tsunami which are possible to cause death to living creatures. Overall, I think that constructing the dam lead to lots of disadvantages for local people to live their lives. It is not fair to cause problems to them in order to gain economic success from the dam.

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    1. I totally agree with you that the Xayaburi dam should not be built because it leads to lots of negative impacts on the living of local people, ecosystem, and economics. Fisheries will soon to be extinct and the country will soon to be less income in exported fish.

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      I agree with the point that marine creature in the Mekong could be extinct from the construction of the Xayaburi dam. Also with the point that of people loss their food and job.

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  20. I totally agree with you that Mekhong river should be protected because it gain a lot of negative effects

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  21. The journal blog is now closed. Thank you for your participation. Aj. M

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